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Fasting To The Wrong God And In The Wrong Way

RAMADAN : FASTING TO THE WRONG GOD AND IN THE WRONG WAY

A key point which Muhammadians miss in relation to Jesus teaching on fasting, is that, even if they were worshipping the right God, (which they aren’t) they fast in the wrong way, just as they pray the wrong way.

What does Jesus say about such overt posturing?

Three times in Matthew 6 relation to overtly public giving, (verse 2), to prayer (verse 5) and to fasting (verse 16), Jesus uses the same words “They already have their reward.”

Ellicott’s Commentary:

“They have their reward.The Greek is more expressive: ‘They have to the full, and so exhaust.’ There is nothing more for them to look for. They bargained for that praise of men, and they get it; but they sought not the honour that cometh of God only, and therefore He gives them none.”

What the Muhammadian seeks from fasting during Ramadan – that is the cancelling of bad deeds – and earning Allah’s forbearance is the EXACT opposite of what Jesus says here.

Jesus makes it plain that by seeking the praise and respect of men, they should expect NOTHING from God.

#FACT: If we want to impress men we can never impress God. They are mutually exclusive concepts.

As always the Quran is antithetical to the Bible on any and every doctrine you care to mention.

As for how to fast according to Islam there are to the eyes of the kaffir a bewildering array of do’s and dont’s. There are even rules for how the kaffir should behave. See memes attached.

There is another verse from Jesus which comes to mind here, speaking about the Pharisaic Jews and scribes (who are a straight read across to modern day Muhammadians):

“For they tie up heavy burdensome loads, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders” (Matthew 23:4)

For more see: https://monasabahbooks.com/tag/christians-guide-to-ramadan

Deuteronomy 24:16 does not apply to Jesus ChrisT

For very weird reasons you didn’t quote Leviticus 17:11 which is a clear statute of God that commands shedding of blood and this is specifically for atonement for the soul.

This very same verse is echoed in Hebrews 9:22

This was the major statute of God.

Deuteronomy 24:16 does NOT apply here for the following reasons:

This is a communal law that governed the way people lived in Israel.

You clearly missed the plural words “fathers”, “sons”, ” children “.

No one is being asked to die for anyone except the Lord Jesus Christ who right from the beginning was foretold that He would die for the sins of mankind.

The Lord Jesus Christ is Almighty God who came in the form of a human being….so this doesn’t apply one bit.

John 1:1

John 1:14

The Lord Jesus Christ is the only person who was sent to die for humanity. As the Messiah that was His sole mission.

Zechariah 12:10

John 19:34-37

So there are no fathers being put to death for their children and vice versa.

Furthermore, it is quite interesting that you will quote the Apostle Paul who preached that the Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, died and resurrected.

1 Corinthians 1:23

Galatians 2:20

Hebrews 5:7 says God heard Him, but you need to continue reading to Hebrews 6:6, then read Hebrews 9 & 10 which clearly shows that the Lord Jesus Christ was crucified and died.

So Hebrews 5:7 is just saying that God heard His supplications but not to stop Him from being crucified and dying, but to make Him the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him

Hebrews 5:9

There is nothing imperfect about the Holy Bible….. The only imperfection is from you and your warped way of reasoning.

Lastly it is another proof of the sheer hypocrisy of islam to criticise the same Holy Bible it claims to have prophecies about Muhammad.

If the Holy Bible is ” imperfect ” like you claim, then why do you muslims love to quote the same Holy Bible to prove the authenticity of Muhammad and the Quran? That makes you abduls the worst kind of hypocrites don’t you think?

FIRST read and study the Bible

The simple answer is that you need to FIRST read and study the Bible, Christian doctrines and Jewish Law and traditions YOURSELF BEFORE you come to debate from a base of ignorance and islam-skewed ideas

The promise was made by Hashem to Abraham that through him ALL the nations of the world would have salvation (Genesis 12:3; 18:18; 22:18). As Hashem Elohim ALONE can grant salvation, in order for Abraham to do so it would mean that Hashem would have to become incarnate in Abraham’s bloodline and that is exactly what happened!

The essence of Hashem Word was placed supernaturally within the womb of Mary and the Lord God Jesus Christ was born, fully human and fully divine, called the hypostatic union, with a human nature and all its emotions, feelings and desires, as well as a divine nature. Because the bloodline curse is passed through the father’s bloodline to the children, Christ being born without a father was born sinless and by always subjugating His human nature to Hashem’s will He remained sinless throughout His life and ministry.

It was never in Hashem’s will or plan that the incarnate Messiah would come seeking worship and overtly proclaim His divinity! He was born to a Jewish family and both His parents knew who He was as they had been informed by the angel at His conception, Christ was raised a Jew and studied the Tanakh and had supernatural insight into the Word. As the human being He was He OBVIOUSLY worshiped Hashem Elohim like all the other Jews, His parents and siblings. Even though muslims are incapable of perceiving the Godhead, Christ had no problem as He was PART of the Godhead, yet His mission was NOT to be Hashem on Earth, but to point the Jews and all nations to Hashem and encourage the Jews to return to Him and the nations of the Earth to embrace Him. This was the central teaching of His Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven and He taught the SPIRIT of the Law and NOT the LETTER as did the Pharisees and scribes.

As much as it was NOT Hashem’s will for Him to overtly proclaim His divinity, Christ did however in many different ways covertly proclaim His divinity! The title by which He most often addressed Himself, the Son of man, was like a red rag to a bull to the Jews as they knew that THE Son of man was the prophesied Messiah to come, yet because of their sinful ways and being so far from Hashem they could not and did not recognise their Messiah in their midst and rejected Him, just as was prophesied would happen.

Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Paul taught Christ’s gospel and as disparaging as Hameed is about Saul/Paul’s meeting with Christ on the Damascus road, the truth is Saul/Paul had a life-changing experience and was thereafter schooled supernaturally by Christ for three years. Consider verse 16 below and see that Paul was NOT schooled by the disciples nor any other humans and thus the inference is that the Spirit of Christ was his teacher.

Galatians 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews’ religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Galatians 1:14 And profited in the Jews’ religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
Galatians 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace,
Galatians 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Galatians 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Galatians 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
Galatians 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord’s brother.

ALIVE IN CHRIST

Jesus

“For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes,” (John 5:21).

Paul

“For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive,” (1 Cor. 15:22).

ANXIETY

Jesus

“For this reason I say to you, do not be anxious for your life, as to what you shall eat, or what you shall drink; nor for your body, as to what you shall put on. Is not life more than food, and the body than clothing?” (Matt. 6:25).

Paul

“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God,” (Phil. 4:6).

ATONEMENT

Jesus

“I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep,” (John 10:11)

Paul

“and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you, and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma,” (Eph. 5:2).

As there is limited space I could only post three topics here out of four pages of topics showing how Paul preached the SAME gospel as Christ!

Four Arabic Words Every Infidel Must Know

In 539 BC, King Belshazzar of Babylon saw a dismembered hand-written four prophetic words on the wall. This “handwriting on the wall” was finally interpreted by the prophet Daniel as predicting the fall of the kingdom. He was right. Babylon fell to the Medes-Persians that very night. Like the “handwriting on the wall” that Prophet Daniel had interpreted, there are four Arabic words, which could lead to submission of the entire world to Islam, if non-Muslims do not fully understand their meaning and implications. Those words are taqiyya, tawriya, kitman and muruna. Each of these words describes a different style of deception used by Muslims when discussing Islam or their activities as Muslims.
Mohammed famously said, “War is deceit.” (Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52,
Nr.268).

The Koran boasts that Allah is the “master of all scheming” (Koran 13:42) and that he is “profound in his machinations” (Koran 8:30). Western civilizations are not accustomed to dealing with people, who have developed deception into an art form. Knowledge is power, and the best way to combat the Islamist agenda is to say, “We are used to your lying. Knock it off!”

TAQIYYA

Taqiyya is defined as dissimulation about one’s Muslim identity. It comes from the verse in the Koran that says, “Let believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does has nothing to hope for from Allah – except in self-defence (illaan tattaqoo minhum tuqatan (Koran 3:28). This “self-defence” justifies dissimulation. Islamic Sharia Law provides, “When it is possible to achieve an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible, and lying is obligatory if the goal is obligatory.”

Reliance of the Traveller Section r8.2 PERMISSIBLE LYING. The Prophet said: “He who settles disagreements between people to bring about good or says something commendable is not a liar”). Examples include lying to protect Islam or a Muslim.

TAWRIYA

Tawriya is defined as concealing, and it could be called “creative lying” or
where appropriate “lying under oath”. It is OK to break the intent of the oath, as long as you don’t break the letter of the oath). This includes the expression “in sha’ Allah” (“If Allah will”), before finishing the oath, then the oath is not broken in any event if he thereby intends to provide for exceptions.

How does this work? Suppose someone protests that Surah 1 of the Koran demeans Christians and Jews, because it is a supplication Muslims make to Allah seventeen times a day to keep them from the path of “those with whom God is angry” and “those who have lost their way”. A Muslim might respond, “Surah 1 never mentions Jews or Christians.” He is practicing tawriya, because while Surah 1 does not mention Jews and Christians by name, but he knows full-well that the words “those” refer to Jews and Christians.

Another example would be when a Muslim responds to your greeting of “Merry Christmas!” He might say, “I wish you the best.” In your mind, you think he has returned a Christmas greeting. In actuality, he has expressed his wish for you to convert to Islam; he wishes the best for you which, in his view, is becoming a Muslim.

KITMAN

Kitman is characterised by someone telling only part of the truth. The most common example of this is when a Muslim says that jihad really refers to an internal, spiritual struggle. He is not telling “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth”, as witnesses are sworn to do in US courts. Often, kitman results in a gross distortion of the truth. In the example given, the Koran uses jihad and its derivatives 59 times. Of those, only 16 (27%) could be considered “internal” with no object as the target of the struggle based on the context of the surah.

Another common form of kitman is to quote only the few peaceful passages from the Koran, knowing full-well that that passage was later abrogated by a more militant, contradictory verse.

“Are they seeking a religion other than Allah’s, when every soul in the heavens and earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?” (Koran 3:83)

Another example: “Permission to take up arms is hereby given to those who are attacked, because they have been wronged.” (Koran 22:39)

“When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere for them.” (Koran 9:5)

And another example: „Anyone who kills a human being… it shall be as though he has killed all mankind. …If anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he has saved the lives of all mankind…“ (Koran 5:32)

“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah… that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned;” (Koran 5:33)

MURUNA

Muruna means using “flexibility” to blend in with the enemy or the surroundings. The justification for this kind of deception is a somewhat bizarre interpretation of Koran 2:106, which says, “If we abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, we will replace it by a better one or similar.”

Thus, Muslims may forget some of the commands in the Koran, as long as they are pursuing a better command. Muslims striving to advance Islam, therefore, can deviate from their Islamic laws in order to cause non-Muslims to lower their guard and place their trust in their Muslim counterpart.

At times, Muslims practice muruna in the same way a chameleon changes colours to avoid detection. Muslims will sometimes shave off their beards, wear western clothing, or even drink alcohol to blend in with non-Muslims. Nothing is more valuable these days to the Islamists than a blue-eyed Caucasian Muslim willing to engage in terrorism.

Another common way of using muruna is for a Muslim to marry a non-Muslim or to behave like a non-Muslim so their true agenda will not be suspected.

The 9/11 hijackers visited strip clubs and bars during their off-times while taking classes in the U.S. to fly airplanes into the World Trade Centre, the Pentagon and the White House. Many Americans believe Hillary Clinton’s aide, Huma Abedin, married Jewish Congressman Anthony Weiner at least in part to burnish her security credentials so she could infiltrate the highest levels of the Administration.

Another example of playing muruna to perfection is Mosab Hassan Yousef, “The Son of Hamas”, the son of a jailed Hamas terrorist leader and MP, Sheikh Hassan Yousef, the most popular figure in that extremist Islamic organisation. Mosab, as a young man, assisted his father for years in his political activities. He converted to Christianity and operated under cover in the service of Israel’s intelligence agency for a decade.

Yousef reveals this information in his book, ‘Son of Hamas: A Gripping Account of Terror, Betrayal, Political Intrigue, and Unthinkable Choices’.

Mosab however, did not convert to what the West would recognize as Christianity, but to a fiery, Palestinian brand of the faith that is vehemently anti-Israel.
According to Mosab, his main goal in coming to the USA is to infiltrate the main source of international support for Israel: the American church. From an interview with Al-Arabiya: “During my tours in universities and even churches, [I found] the real support for Israel stems from the church in the West….. We need to understand the difference between “revenge” and “resistance” and once the Palestinians do, we will have our victory against Israel.”

Hopefully, this article will be a wake-up call to the unsuspecting infidels.
Trust but verify – as was an old American strategy in dealing with potentially hostile parties – is the way to go in dealing with Islamists.

Gabriel is not the Holy Spirit

No where in the Bible does it say that the Holy Spirit is Gabriel, but it says in a number of places that the Holy Spirit is part of Godhead

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

In addition, Jesus talked of the Comforter

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Compare these items to those that mention Gabriel:

Luke 1:19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
Luke 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
Daniel 8:15 ¶ And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. 16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. 17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
Bottom line – there are all sorts of references to the Holy Spirit as part of the trinity Godhead and part of God, and there are no references to the Holy Spirit being an angel. On the other hand, Gabriel is no doubt an angel, and appears as an entity that is separate from God and bears messages from God.

Galations 5- circumcision

Why don’t you quote the whole message so the meaning is not messed up – are you trying to be deceptive

Galations 5 verse 1-6

For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.

2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. 4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.

George Bernard Shaw

George Bernard Shaw was an athiest who despised democracy, supported Lenin, Stalin and the Soviet purges, and denied the Ukrainian Famine happened. He also supported Hitler, and denied the Holocaust happened.
He was also a supporter of genocide. Its interesting that muslims need to use athiests to slam the Bible.
George Bernard Shaw has no credibility as Bible critic.

God killing Children

If you only want to believe in some aspects of the True Living God, but reject other parts of Him, by rejecting the other parts, you’re committing the sin of idolatry by creating a god in your mind that suits your personal tastes; putting yourself in the judgment seat instead of the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Bible says there is one God in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (Heb 1:8, Act 5:3-4, etc) Often, I see people, condemning or scoffing at the God of the Old Testament.

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
-Mark 7:7

I will say this very clearly at the start: The God of the Old Testament books and the Jesus Christ of the New Testament Gospel are one and the same, and to reject one is to reject the other in turn.

God is righteous. (Ezr 9:15)
God is holy. (Isa 6:3)
God is forgiving. (Mat 6:14)
God is jealous. (Exd 20:5)
God has loved mankind. (Tts 3:4)
God hates sin and the wicked. (Pro 6:16-19)
And more specifically to this topic: God is just. (Deu 32:4)

In the Bible, when God gives people a long time to repent of their evil and wicked ways, mankind complains about it. When God immediately punishes people for their evil and wicked ways, mankind complains about it. It doesn’t matter what God chooses to do, mankind will mope and whine about it.

We need to understand that when God chooses to punish a wicked people, it is justified in every case. For example, God commanded the nation of Israel to exterminate the Amalekites, down to the last man, woman, child, and beast. (1Sam 15:2-3) When scoffers of the Bible mention this commandment of God, they claim how horrible it is that God would allow this, however, when put into the context of the history laid out in Scripture, the Amalekites were a wicked people that plagued God’s chosen people for hundreds of years with war and disease! They were also warned to repent and turn from their wicked ways, or face God’s judgment. I’m glad I’m not God because I don’t think I could be that longsuffering. The Lord allowed an evil people to last MANY generations because:

The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
-2 Peter 3:9

Even when we look at the book of Jonah, God was set to destroy 120,000 wicked people in Nineveh, but he sent Jonah to preach and warn the people of God’s judgment. The city, along with their king, took Jonah’s warning seriously, and immediately, the entire city fasted and prayed to God for forgiveness and repented of their sin. God showed Nineveh mercy. Nineveh’s people were terribly wicked, and Jonah knew this, so when God showed them mercy:

But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was angry.
-Jonah 4:1

Mankind whines and complains when God shows mercy to sinners, yet, when the Lord decides their time is up and punishes sinners, mankind whines and complains about that too. It seems mankind just wants to whine and complain.

The fact that a man would scoff at God for a decision to wipe out a wicked people shows how completely selfish and ignorant we have become. When a man stands up and says that a decision of God was wrong, he claims that he himself is more righteous than the All-Powerful Living God! That’s incredibly arrogant! People are trying to judge God, when God is the only reason we have justice and morality to begin with. God is good and the standard for goodness, and we can’t use the standard for goodness to say the standard for goodness is not good. That’s nonsense. We need to humble our hearts before All-Mighty God, repent of our sins, and give thanks for the long-suffering He has endured with us and our stupidity.

God is both just and merciful.

If you want to believe in a god that is forgiving, but not judging, then you believe in a false god. If you want to believe in a god that is loving, but will not punish sinners, then you believe in a false god. (And because God and Christ are One, you believe in a false christ!) We have to accept ALL of God, or in reality, we accept NONE of Him. People are always deciding to take what parts of the Bible they are willing to accept, throw out the rest of God, and break the 2nd commandment, making themselves idolaters.

Did God allow forty-two children to be killed for mocking His prophet? Yes. Why? I don’t know, and won’t claim to know. Perhaps the Lord knew that wicked generations would arise from these children, causing more suffering and death in later generations, so He decided to stop it before it started. Perhaps they made habit of mocking God and His prophets to tempt His anger. We don’t know why God chose to allow this. We only know the children were doing a wicked deed, and they were punished for it.

With that in mind, we know there is an age of accountability spoken of in Scripture, where little children, who have not reached an age of knowledge of good and evil, are not sent to hell upon death. The 2 bears killed 42 “little children,” and thus, it is likely that these children didn’t understand what they were really saying and who they were saying it to, but they were trained by their society to do and say such things against the prophets of the Lord, so if the children went to heaven when they died, who was God really punishing? I suspect that God was really punishing the parents for teaching and allowing the mocking of the Lord.

When God chooses to punish sin, we don’t have a right to question it. Again, God is the standard for right and wrong. To question God’s authority over morality would be to claim oneself as a moral authority, which ends in logical fallacy no matter what arguments are made.

God putting evil spirit

God putting evil spirit
Do you know what happened here?
God had lost patience with King Ahab’s wickedness and wanted to remove him.

If you take a look at the text you can see that God is asking questions.

v. 20 “The Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said this while another said that.
v. 21 “Then a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’
v. 22 “The Lord said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.’
v. 23 “Now therefore, behold, the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the Lord has proclaimed disaster against you.”

No, God sending a deceiving spirit does not mean that he is a deceiver. He was merely sending a demonic force, allowing it to perform what was natural to it, to do something that was part of the greater plan of God. If I send my wife to the store to get something, I am not the one doing it — she is. If I know that in the process she is going to speed and break the law, am I the one guilty for her speeding? Of course not, since she is exercising her free choice.

Gods will die like men

Gods will die like men?
Now look at Psalm 82:
1 God stands in the congregation of the mighty; He judges among the gods.
2 How long will you judge unjustly, And show partiality to the wicked? Selah
3 Defend the poor and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy; Free them from the hand of the wicked.
5 They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable.
6 I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.
7 But you shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.”
This passage requires a little more thought, but it is still quite clear. In the context of this passage it is clear that the ‘gods’ are not called so because they are divine, but because they are set up to be judges. God established His leadership to judge and do justice among the people. This has nothing to do with divinity. We know this because God follows up by saying, “You are gods and children of the Most High, but you shall die like men”. Look at the entire context of this passage. God is judging the judges He has ordained because they became arrogant and unjust. In stead of using the power God had given them to defend the helpless and needy, they used it for greed and gain. They afflicted the needy and gave favor to the wicked. Jesus used this same passage against the Pharisees. They thought they were above the people. The passage declares that these ‘gods’ are wicked, without understanding, walking in darkness, have an unstable foundation, and they will die like all men do. This doesn’t sound much like the claims of divinity the ‘Christian’ false teachers and other religions proclaim it to be.