WHY MUSLIMS DEMAND A SINGLE VERSE FOR JESUS DEITY
On another thread Firash Hameed keeps demanding a statement for — and keeps claiming that in the absence of — a single verse where Jesus claimed to be God this proves He isn’t and so Christians are wrong to worship Him as such.
He isn’t the first Muslim to do so and he won’t be the last. Indeed they are doing this on a daily basis.
I think it’s worth sharing my reply to him (for which I’ve not yet seen any further response).
“But to put to bed his red herring diversion, in a sense Firash Hameed you are right there is no single verse where Jesus said “I am God” and for very good reasons.
The Pharisees tried to trap Jesus with the very same challenge:
“When daylight came, the elders of the people, both the chief priests and the scribes, convened and brought Him before their Sanhedrin. They said, “If You are the Messiah, tell us.” But He said to them, “If I do tell you, you will not believe. And if I ask you, you will not answer. But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the Power of God.” They all asked, “Are You, then, the Son of God? ” And He said to them, “You say that I am.” “Why do we need any more testimony,” they said, “since we’ve heard it ourselves from His mouth?” (Luke 22:66-71 HCSB)
Here is your answer Firash, “If I do tell you, you will not believe”. In other words even if there was a single verse.which proved the.point, given the weight of testimony He already gave which leaves you as it did the Pharisees unmoved and cynically unbelieving, one more verse is not going to make any difference!
Or what about this?
“Then the Jews surrounded Him and asked, “How long are You going to keep us in suspense? If You are the Messiah, tell us plainly.” “I DID TELL YOU AND YOU DON’T BELIEVE,” Jesus answered them. “THE WORKS THAT I DO IN MY FATHER’S NAME TESTIFY ABOUT ME. BUT YOU DON’T BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT MY SHEEP. My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish — ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. The Father and I are one.” (John 10:24-30 HCSB)
Read about yourself again here too and think about what Jesus just said. “I DID TELL YOU AND YOU DON’T BELIEVE”.
Exactly what I and all my Christian colleagues here are doing continuously — we have told you, shown you all the cumulative evidence for Jesus’s self identity and yet you demand a single verse! What arrogance!
Now notice how they react …
“Again the Jews picked up rocks to stone Him. Jesus replied, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. Which of these works are you stoning Me for? ” “We aren’t stoning You for a good work,” the Jews answered, “BUT FOR BLASPHEMY, BECAUSE YOU — being a man — MAKE YOURSELF GOD.” (John 10:31-33 HCSB)
Aha! Now we are getting close this is the point where you and the Jews part company! They weren’t afraid to acknowledge that Jesus was doing good works — what they were afraid of was His claiming to be God in so doing. They were actually at least that much more honest because they saw the evidence and heard His teaching and forgiving sins — a prerogative of God alone — they just weren’t prepared to believe Him. (Though in reality many Jews did and not only His disciples). Its Muslims who can’t even admit that Jesus was making Himself equal to God. Yours is the far greater sin because we have the 20:20 vision of hindsight which those Pharisees did not — for at these moments Jesus had not yet vindicated all the claims He made for Himself by His resurrection. His three dozen explicit and implicit predictions of it had not yet been fulfilled.
You are without excuse of any sort. They were expecting a Messiah, Jesus didnt match their expectations of one for reasons I can explain another time.
You on the other hand are in complete denial. Denial of Jesus as God and in denial that He ever claimed to be. The JEWS TESTIFY AGAINST YOU EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO WHAT JESUS DID.
Lastly, there are very good reasons why Jesus would not and did not make an outright statement such as “I am God” or “worship Me” and for any critically thinking person it’s very obvious.
I am not rehearsing the reasons for that here because they are fully covered in this post. Go and read it if you are seriously searching and want convincing but as with your kind the Pharisees you aren’t because you — like they — have too much too lose by admitting the truth.
□ THE DEITY OF CHRIST PART 1 — WHY JESUS NEVER SAID “I AM GOD” 3 July 2023
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1240552380157775&id=100026090748056&mibextid=Nif5oz”
Let’s see how the Muslims are going to respond and what diversions are coming next … 🙄
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On another thread Firash Hameed keeps demanding a statement for — and keeps claiming that in the absence of — a single verse where Jesus claimed to be God this proves He isn’t and so Christians are wrong to worship Him as such.
He isn’t the first Muslim to do so and he won’t be the last. Indeed they are doing this on a daily basis.
I think it’s worth sharing my reply to him (for which I’ve not yet seen any further response).
“But to put to bed his red herring diversion, in a sense Firash Hameed you are right there is no single verse where Jesus said “I am God” and for very good reasons.
The Pharisees tried to trap Jesus with the very same challenge:
“When daylight came, the elders of the people, both the chief priests and the scribes, convened and brought Him before their Sanhedrin. They said, “If You are the Messiah, tell us.” But He said to them, “If I do tell you, you will not believe. And if I ask you, you will not answer. But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the Power of God.” They all asked, “Are You, then, the Son of God? ” And He said to them, “You say that I am.” “Why do we need any more testimony,” they said, “since we’ve heard it ourselves from His mouth?” (Luke 22:66-71 HCSB)
Here is your answer Firash, “If I do tell you, you will not believe”. In other words even if there was a single verse.which proved the.point, given the weight of testimony He already gave which leaves you as it did the Pharisees unmoved and cynically unbelieving, one more verse is not going to make any difference!
Or what about this?
“Then the Jews surrounded Him and asked, “How long are You going to keep us in suspense? If You are the Messiah, tell us plainly.” “I DID TELL YOU AND YOU DON’T BELIEVE,” Jesus answered them. “THE WORKS THAT I DO IN MY FATHER’S NAME TESTIFY ABOUT ME. BUT YOU DON’T BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT MY SHEEP. My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish — ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. The Father and I are one.” (John 10:24-30 HCSB)
Read about yourself again here too and think about what Jesus just said. “I DID TELL YOU AND YOU DON’T BELIEVE”.
Exactly what I and all my Christian colleagues here are doing continuously — we have told you, shown you all the cumulative evidence for Jesus’s self identity and yet you demand a single verse! What arrogance!
Now notice how they react …
“Again the Jews picked up rocks to stone Him. Jesus replied, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. Which of these works are you stoning Me for? ” “We aren’t stoning You for a good work,” the Jews answered, “BUT FOR BLASPHEMY, BECAUSE YOU — being a man — MAKE YOURSELF GOD.” (John 10:31-33 HCSB)
Aha! Now we are getting close this is the point where you and the Jews part company! They weren’t afraid to acknowledge that Jesus was doing good works — what they were afraid of was His claiming to be God in so doing. They were actually at least that much more honest because they saw the evidence and heard His teaching and forgiving sins — a prerogative of God alone — they just weren’t prepared to believe Him. (Though in reality many Jews did and not only His disciples). Its Muslims who can’t even admit that Jesus was making Himself equal to God. Yours is the far greater sin because we have the 20:20 vision of hindsight which those Pharisees did not — for at these moments Jesus had not yet vindicated all the claims He made for Himself by His resurrection. His three dozen explicit and implicit predictions of it had not yet been fulfilled.
You are without excuse of any sort. They were expecting a Messiah, Jesus didnt match their expectations of one for reasons I can explain another time.
You on the other hand are in complete denial. Denial of Jesus as God and in denial that He ever claimed to be. The JEWS TESTIFY AGAINST YOU EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO WHAT JESUS DID.
Lastly, there are very good reasons why Jesus would not and did not make an outright statement such as “I am God” or “worship Me” and for any critically thinking person it’s very obvious.
I am not rehearsing the reasons for that here because they are fully covered in this post. Go and read it if you are seriously searching and want convincing but as with your kind the Pharisees you aren’t because you — like they — have too much too lose by admitting the truth.
□ THE DEITY OF CHRIST PART 1 — WHY JESUS NEVER SAID “I AM GOD” 3 July 2023
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1240552380157775&id=100026090748056&mibextid=Nif5oz”
Let’s see how the Muslims are going to respond and what diversions are coming next … 🙄
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